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- From: squirrel@cup.portal.com (Sean - Curtin)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Re: HELP: 1084 BLOWN! Where to get parts?
- Date: 20 Jan 1996 02:20:06 -0800
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- >skyman@iastate.edu (J.R.C.III)
- >I would appreciate it if anyone could tell me where to get parts for my
- >1084S-D1. I saw that Better Concepts has a $10 grab bag but have yet to
- >call them to find out whats in it. If anyone has a reputable dealer with
- >service center that has spare parts or access to order some PLEASE let me
- >know. OR if anyone knows a Electronics Shack that has parts in stock PLEASE
- >email me with the info. BTW: the tube is an Orion.
- >
-
- Don't know of a specific place, but you can try to get a Phillips ECG
- manual from a local service/parts place. It's got a great cross reference
- section for just about any kind of semiconductor you can think of.
-
- >Also if anyone has schematics online please feel free to email me them :)
- >
- >MY SPECIFIC PROBLEM (or not):
- >
- >I was watching tv on my 1084 (its good for that you know :) when the screen
- >shot blank and a high pitched whining noise started. So I quickly shut it
- >off and ripped the back off the monitor. I found out that the noise is
- >being emited somewhere near the transformer. But I am not sure exactly
- >where. As there is a big heat sheild near it with a funny looking diode on
- >it shaped like a rectangle with pointed ends screwed and heat wielded to it.
- >Also there is a big capacitor next to it.
-
- Does it look like this? ____
- / \
- / ()<-\-----Screw into aluminum heat sink.
- |--------|
- | |
- | XXXX<-+----Letters/Numbers.
- | |
- | | Usually made out of black plastic with
- | | metal backing.
- ----------
- | | |
- | | |
- | | |
- If it does, then you've probably found the horizontal output transistor.
- First off, does the monitor work on an RGB signal? If so, the problem lies
- somewhere in the composite sync seperation circuitry. If not, check the
- picture tube when you turn the monitor off. Can you feel static on the
- screen? If so, the tube is getting high voltage, so the horizontal output
- transistor and the flyback transformer (big red wire comes out of it &
- goes to picture tube.) should be working okay. Check for raster. With or
- without a signal going in, turn the brightness and contrast all the way
- up. If you can see scan lines on the screen, the problem probably lies in
- the horizontal sync circuitry. If this is the case, it could be any number
- of things, so take it in for servicing. I suppose there's an off chance it
- could be the HO transistor, though. If it was me, I'd pull it, do an Hfe
- check on it and compare the value with whatever the aforementioned cross
- reference manual gives. If it's way out of line, I'd try replacing it.
- I've also run into blown diodes in the power supply once or twice, however
- in these cases the monitor usually fails to come on at all.
-
- >I was pretty sure that the transformer was making the noise so I desoldered
- >it and pulled it out and reapplied power...... The noise stopped, which is
- >understandable since the power could go no further :) so I put it back in
- >and resoldered it and the noise came back :(I hoped it was a solder joint)
- >so I think I need a new transformer.
- >
- The noise from the transformer is probably a symptom, but not a cause. If
- you're getting high voltage to the picture tube, the transformer's probably
- not it...providing it's the same transformer we're talking about here.
-
- >I have heard that this is a common problem as a friend of mine has a couple
- >of 1084's that a broke with one doing the same as mine (to bad ones not
- >1084s-d1 so I could disect it).
- >
- >I would appreciate it if ANYONE has any help for me as I am stuck using this
- >god awefull tty terminal until my monitor is fixed and I can go back to
- >using my amiga (long live it).
- >
- >THANKS TO ANYONE WHO CAN HELP!!!
- I've heard 1084's are prone to bad solder joints. You might want to try
- tapping the solder side of the circuit board with somehing hard, heavy, and
- plastic. I usually use the back end of a screwdriver, but use what you feel
- safe with.
-
- Disclaimer:
- 1. Keep in mind that there are potentially deadly voltages running around
- in there. I've gotten my share of shocks from them, and don't really enjoy
- working on monitors as a result 8^). My best advice is to make sure that
- all big capacitors have had a chance to discharge if you feel you're going
- to be close to touching any high voltage points.
-
- When I'm working on a monitor or TV, and it doesn't absolutely have to
- be plugged in to test or adjust I: turn it off and let it discharge for 30
- seconds or so, unplug it, short between all 3 pins on the power plug with
- a screwdriver, turn the power switch on to drain anything else that might
- be lying dormant. Even this might still not catch everything, so be careful.
-
- If it has to be on, sit it on a non-conductive surface in a direction where
- you can get access to it but still see the screen, NEVER have both hands
- inside the chassis at once, and try not to lean against any grounded
- conductive surfaces. Target what you want to adjust or tap ahead of time
- and use pleanty of light.
-
- 2. I am not a professional. I am just speaking from my experience with the
- 9 or 10 monitors and 2 or 3 TV's that I've had to dig into for various
- reasons, most of which are still functioning today (not counting the ones
- I've scavenged parts out of 8^). While I do have an AA in electronics (soon
- to be a BS), I've had no formal traning in monitor repair per se. What I
- know, I've taught myself out of necessity.
-
- 3. Good Luck.
-
- ...Sean.
-